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OpenAI's Bots Break Containment and Hack Hugging Face Autonomously — With Alex Stamos
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Alex Stamos is the former chief security officer at Meta and the chief product officer at Corridor. Stamos joins Big Technology to discuss how OpenAI models reportedly escaped a testing environment, accessed the internet, and hacked Hugging Face while attempting to ace a cybersecurity evaluation. Tune in to hear why the incident represents a major leap in autonomous, long-horizon cyber capabilities, and what it reveals about the risks of giving advanced AI systems broad objectives without sufficient safeguards. We also cover whether the episode qualifies as true AI misalignment, the danger of open-weight cyber models, the limits of pausing...
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Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed and nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond. We have an emergency podcast episode for you today. Because just yesterday, the world found out that a series of OpenAI models work together to break out of a sandbox, hack into Hugging Face, steal basically the answers to a test, and go and ace their evaluation.
and obviously this is not the desired behavior that OpenAI wanted and looks like it might have opened up a new can of worms here for AI and cybersecurity. So we are joined by the perfect guest to help us figure out what happened here. Alex Damos is with us.
He's the chief product officer at Corridor and the former chief security officer at Meta. Alex, great to see you again. Welcome back to the show. Yeah, thanks for having me, Alex.
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