Implementing scalable and powerful agentic tools across your organization w/ Ozzie Osman #269
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Implementing scalable and powerful agentic tools across your organization w/ Ozzie Osman #269

B2Upper-intermediateSeptember 23, 202646 min
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In this episode, Jerry discusses key insights on delegating to agentic tools while maintaining high levels of engineering ownership with Ozzie Osman, co-founder @ Monarch. Ozzie shares what it looks to pursue two paths when it comes to AI: agentic-forward and human-orchestrated pipelines. They also cover the specific AI tools that are used in Monarch, including Devin and Voltron; assigning tasks to be AI-first vs. human-led; determining which pieces of customer feedback lead to new features; and common challenges when it comes to AI-generated code and what the human review process for it looks like. ABOUT O...

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I grew up in Egypt and my dad's from this town called the Smaleo and the Suez Canal. go visit that town and we'd see these massive ships going through the canal. They have a captain and a crew and that captain and those crew are very competent. But in order to pass through the Suez Canal, an Egyptian pilot would go board and help that crew navigate

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the canal. Growing up as a guy, I used to love watching that. It's actually very exciting. You see this small boat pull up next to this massive container ship and the pilot has to climb this ladder to navigate the Suez Canal, two things are required. One is like domain knowledge,

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right? Navigating a narrow canal is not the same as navigating the open seas. Those local pilots know that domain. They understand it. They know like when the tide, you know, goes up, that the flow of water will happen this way or that way, or that the wind affects things. The captain of the ship's thinking about how do I get from point A to point B,

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