Real Talk on Braille’s Future & The New Sensaball Cane Tip

It's Friday and coming up on the show today we're going to learn all about a cool new cane tip from Australia. This is Double Tap, where blind people talk tech. Here's Stephen Scott and Sean Preece. Strokes, mate! I knew you were a good day! So, what does it do? I want one.

Is it AI powered? Is it smart? What does it do? It's called The Sensible. Oh, that's clever. We're talking to its creator today.

Oh, nice. 360 degrees. Sounds similar to something else out there, but we'll get into that a bit later.

We'll explore later. Eh? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Eh? Thank you. Yeah, all right. I'm only one coffee in today.

You know. It's Friday. It is Friday. Yes, you're absolutely right.

Thank you. Well done. Congratulations on naming the day of the week. That's me done for the rest of the show.

Of the week. Right, look, let's get into, I don't want to play the email jingle yet. What?

I know you'll be shocked and horrified. I'm ready with me ding-dongs. I know, but this was one I want to pick up from yesterday because we were chatting yesterday about AI

and how people are using it and the excitement it's causing. But there's one listener who doesn't feel quite as excited about it. And perhaps Sean can help. Hi, Steve and Sean.

This is Desi B coming in from deepest southern seaside town in the UK. Listen, Sean. Secret. I might be behind the curb here.

Yes. Or have missed something. But you know you talk a lot about creating programs using, is it vibe coding or something like that?

or using these ai programs to make a program yes now would it be useful for you to do a sean in the shed version of how to start off these processes you know idiot's guide to starting the processes of creating these exciting products which i keep hearing you all talk about it let me know what you think i think it would be wonderful cheers

okay well that's one approach desi yes i think the other one is that we just shut up talking about it i think we could do that as well don't like that idea hang on i know i've just checked No, we don't like that idea. No, it is a good idea.

And the thing is, I still feel like I'm finding my way with it. You know, we talked about ways to access, in our case, Claude Code, which is the AI that we're using to create these apps and whatever. You can access it through the terminal.

Stephen uses the desktop app. And I'm still, what's the difference between them? I'm still finding my way. So I don't feel like I know enough to be able to,

even if it's a getting started guide, I feel like you should know your way around it a little bit to give the right advice. Is this sounding convincing, Stephen Scott?

Can I just say as well, I think there's another challenge here, a major challenge at the moment, and that is the continual changing of these apps. So Claude has just undergone another change.

Yes. uh i believe codex or chat gpt's desktop app i think on the mac has undergone another refresh and and what they've done in both occasions and i don't know why they're following each other with this but they've kind of hidden away the chat function so each of them have essentially three

components right you've got chat which is the general knowledge if you like you know you can ask a question it will give you information um maybe a little bit of research you can do a lot with the chat but but with co-work and chat gpt's equivalent i think called chat gpt work um they are a bit more in depth they also let you control browsers you can sort of use that tool to

go onto a browser and ask it to click the buttons for you to perhaps set up a yeah i don't know sign a form or you know fill in a form or whatever it might be you know hit that download button go through that checkout process the things you've had difficulty with before um and then you have code which is where you can develop tools and you can use code but of course as you move into that

third area uh claude calls it code chat gpd calls it codex when you move into that third area you can can do a lot more and you can control a lot more in your computer very similar functions to co-work but it goes even further even deeper into your computer and as i say it can develop projects and all of that stuff as well but what i've noticed is that they're starting to move away from

promoting the chat so in claude on the desktop app now when you go in you only have home or code co-work has kind of disappeared really and it disappeared to the uh the text field where you actually type in your prompt so in there you have a button after that which you can choose chat or co-work within that sort of prompt you can decide which one you're going to use now

they're obviously going by user feedback here but it seems odd to me they're kind of burying the chat because the co-work is the default i haven't used chat gpt and codex but you know basically there's the what i'm getting at here desi and i know i'm probably going way over your head on this and i don't mean to but the point i'm trying to make is that there's always change happening at

the moment i mean every day i open up that app there's a relaunched update relaunched update every single day sometimes even on the same day relaunched update they're constantly changing it constantly iterating it bringing out new models so it is really difficult actually to give you that you know step-by-step guide on setting something up and using it i think what we'd have to think

about are fundamentals instead yeah what are the what are the things to look for the concepts and what the concept of the structure of the the app how i mean if you were going to use it with terminal that's a whole other conversation but you know just with the basic apps you'd have to think about the basic construction of the app and how it works because it's going to change all the

time not good for us that's the problem well i don't use the desktop app stephen scott whereas I know you do and I think the desktop app is probably the best place to start rather than the terminal I agree and I think it's always good for someone who hasn't tried it to to sort of use