Meta’s New Glasses & Tony Gebhard Discusses His New AI Training Book ‘No Sight Required’

Meta’s New Glasses & Tony Gebhard Discusses His New AI Training Book ‘No Sight Required’

Double Tap

B1June 25, 202656 min
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Discover how blind and visually impaired users can harness AI tools like Claude to build accessible solutions, enhance independence, and master screen reader fundamentals—guided by Tony Gebhard’s No Sight Required. Tony Gebhard joins Steven Scott and Shaun Preece to discuss his new book, No Sight Required: A Blind User’s Guide to AI. Written from a first-hand perspective, the book tackles the lack of consolidated resources for blind users exploring artificial intelligence. Tony explains why screen reader fundamentals are essential before diving into AI projects and shares how tools like Claude and Codex can help create...

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Coming up, Tony Gebhart's here to talk about his new book, No Sight Required and Meta Have New Glasses. Ooh! This is Double Tap, where blind people talk tech. Here's Stephen Scott and Sean Priest.

Ah, Sean Priest. I got a little excited there. Did you? Sorry about that.

To get a little bit excited. I did a little, ooh! I'm so sorry. I was very unprofessional.

Give us that again. You okay? Give us that again. Oh!

Oh, I'm glad you did that, because NRI producer Jordan can go off and turn that into something ridiculous. The offensive I'm sure. Yeah, listen, we've got big breaking news today.

This is good. Breaking news. Not just that Tony Gebhardt is joining us today, which is of course wonderful. written the book No Sight Required all about learning AI from the blindness perspective.

Hooray! I didn't have enough breath in me to do that properly. Let me know. From the blindness perspective.

There we go. I got it right in the end. I think that's right. That's how the blind people say it, isn't it?

That's how we represent. We love the blind people. We love the blind people. We can't all call it if we didn't, right?

That would be quite an admission on the show today. That would be like, okay. Okay, leave it. I'm going to get a call.

Yeah, exactly. Danger. No, I want to call today. Yes, new glasses.

Now, Meta have announced these new glasses, simply called Meta glasses. Hmm, I'm stroking my chin, Sean Priest. Hmm, new glasses.

What's going on with that? Well, I'm just thinking right. So Google are about to come out with theirs. Snap came out with a ridiculous offering,

like over $2,000, no one's buying. But an Apple made out coming out with theirs. I think Samsung are probably about to announce as well with glasses. So it's going to get a really interesting space.

Meta are wanting to be in amongst it. They want to be in there and they don't want to be forgotten about. And so they've brought these new glasses, which I've got to say, are quite interesting for

one simple reason and you are going to like this reason, Sean, please. Yes, go on. Price. There's a great moment.

More affordable, arguably, I say cheaper. They are cheaper, not twenty dollars or anything. I mean, comparatively so, they are cheaper than the others. No, this isn't the moment where it's like,

when the Bose frames came out, and on Amazon there was like 1600 different variants, all at like a quarter of the price. It's not that, it's not that unfortunately.

There are two new versions, well three actually, but two particular new versions of the Meta glasses that have been brought out, the Adventurer and the Fury. Cool name! Sounds like mine.

What the fury ones? I'm furious. I want my glasses. Has they not got a grumpy pair or something?

Slightly annoyed. I do think you're ought to be grumpy while wearing them. I think that is okay. I'll check in with Zuckerberg,

but I think that's okay. I'll check in with Zuck. Now in Canada, pricing is gonna start at $409. In the US that's 2.99.

That's the new floor and it is the cheapest smart glasses that Meta have actually ever sold. But there is a rung up from that.

If you fancy, slightly more fancy pair, I know about these particular ones only because of your partner who sent me a text as soon as they were announced. I've realized that she doesn't think much of you to call and say, hey, Sean, I'd love a pair of these. Hint, hint. She sends the message to me for some reason,

thinking I'm going to buy her a pair. She's suggesting I buy them for my wife. Yes. But at the same time, I think she's kind of suggesting, you know, if you're going to buy one pair. Have you got this? Yes, of course. Well, she's, you know, firstly, that's leverage, Right? I mean, you know, Scots, Wife, Scotsome and I mean, yeah, yeah.

Scots Wife. That's what it'll be. Yeah. Scots Wife. Sorry. I should have said that. I see it right. Okay. Stevens Wife.

And secondly, it's because she knows that half of the stuff in my house comes from your studio. So there's a chance, you know, if the dog chews them up or anything. Yeah. I'm here. She's not, I found a pair of metal ray bands in the cupboard the other day.

I thought I really should, I should donate these to charity or something because they're just lying on the drawer. Yeah, there you are. Shoppreest, my personal charity. But these new ones are designed with reality TV star Kylie Jenner. Whoever that is. I want them. Apparently it's a celebrity. So, okay, we'll go with that.

I'm probably one of the few people that was quite excited when I heard Kylie. I was like, Kylie Minogue pair of glasses. No, it's Kylie Jenner. Showing your age.

Yeah, I know. Well, excuse me. She's very popular, apparently. Kylie Minogue is very popular as well, you know.

Yes, for a certain age gentleman. And lady. Wow. Kylie, if you're listening, I'm so sorry.

Minogue, that is not Jenner. I don't know who Kylie Jenner is, but apparently she is famous. I should be because she's got her own glasses. These are more a fashion thing.

I mean... Yeah, of course. a fashion icon, I believe. Yeah, exactly right. Yeah. So that is exactly why Sarah did message you,

because she was excited by this, because she's got other Kylie Jenner stuff. I believe we bought perfume back from our CSUN trip that time. Ah, yes. And that's the association she made.

Now, answer me. Riddle me this, Sean Priest. I don't know why we're having this conversation on the air. I don't know me, but carry on. But did I buy Kylie Jenner perfume for my wife?

I vaguely remember you buying it. I remember someone buying it. Did we both buy it? Okay, right.

Yes. Apparently it was the trending thing when we got that. So yeah. I did ask my wife, but she had no memory of it at all. So clearly that's so yesterday.

Celebrity names sell. So that's the reason for this. Price-wise, you're talking $549 in Canada. So $399 in the US.

So it's creeping up again, but this is with this style. a more smaller rounded frame, which I believe is consistent with the Kylie Jenner style. I'm reading that because I have no idea who Kylie Jenner is. But here's what is interesting. So until

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