Why Dwarkesh is Wrong about Computer Use + How OpenAI shipped its Jev competitor in 1 Week
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Why Dwarkesh is Wrong about Computer Use + How OpenAI shipped its Jev competitor in 1 Week

B2Upper-intermediateSeptember 30, 202639 min

Three months ago Dwarkesh, who has been posting incredible blogs and episodes about RL, posted a framing question for his video essay on RLVR which upset a lot of Computer Use folks: We are no strangers to learning in public and are no strangers to the stress of getting things wrong when you have a big platform. However, we were at Anthropic for the Computer Use launch, there for Claude Cowork with the first big podcast on it, organized the first Computer Use track at AIE presenting the state of the art, and were close to the...

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Okay, we're very excited to be here. Today is OpenAI Dev Day. We're the first podcast after the live stream. We have Ari here who leads the product and engineering team for computer use agents. Before we kick in and dive deep on computer use, you want to give a quick recap?

0:23

What was announced? What's the quick slew of announcements you guys had today? There were a bunch of computer use announcements that I think are worth thinking about. We have DOTS, which is the new personal assistant product. That has some really exciting computer use features.

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There's GBD6.1 Soul, which is this amazing new model that I think is particularly great for computer use fifth of the cost as Astra and a seventh of the cost if you're looking at computer use specifically, which is really amazing. Sorry, there were so many things I'm trying to sort through it.

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