
Finding Hope In A Long View Of History - Gita Sjahrir | BRAVE E740
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Gita, an Indonesian who lived abroad for decades and now lives in Indonesia, joins host Jeremy Au to discuss Revolusi by David Van Reybrouck, which she has read twice. She describes how the book, built on interviews with about 185 people, presents Indonesian independence as the work of ordinary people, including students in the Netherlands. They compare the Dutch VOC and the British East India Company, and trace Singapore's path through Japanese occupation to independence in 1965. Gita covers the 1928 Youth Proclamation that chose Malay as a shared language, the 17 August 1945 proclamation after Japan's surrender, and the book's ship-class metaphor for...
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So definitely it really does help to look at history through hundreds of years and decades and just see that, hey, maybe there is hope. I think the know the future, you kind of got to know the past.
But what the book shows is a lot of it is just normal everyday people getting caught by decisions of people at the top. And the question is, can you then,
through whatever means you have, make a difference in that one moment? Hey! Hi!
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