
The Roy Cohn Playbook, from McCarthyism to Trump
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- Politics
In a biography of Roy Cohn, Kai Bird looks at how the lawyer taught President Trump to deny, delay, attack, sue and countersue, never admit defeat, side step paying bills and avoid a paper trail. His book, with co-author Susan Goldmark, is American Scoundrel. He spoke with Terry Gross. Also, Ken Tucker reflects on three of Dolly Parton’s performances that he says demonstrate her range and her unique takes on romance and heartbreak. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast spo...
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This is Ira Glass. On This American Life, we tell stories about when things change. Like for this guy David, his entire life took a sharp, unexpected and very unpleasant turn.
And it did take me a while to realize it's basically because the monkey pressed the button. That's right. Because the monkey pressed the button.
Spricing stories every week wherever you get your podcasts. This is Fresh Air. I'm Terry Gross. Back when Donald Trump was getting his start as a real estate developer in his father's
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