Model welfare, building a civilization for agents, and the CI/CD landrush
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Model welfare, building a civilization for agents, and the CI/CD landrush

B2Upper-intermediateAugust 7, 202638 min

This week on the Friday Deploy, Ben and Andrew break down Steve Yegge's radical approach to orchestrating agentic civilizations and pushing code straight to main without traditional CI/CD. The conversation also highlights the art of constructing effective AI harnesses by balancing context complexity with cognitive locality and the Socratic method. Finally, they dive into the math community's existential crisis as AI accelerates the frontier of knowledge far beyond the speed of human peer review. Register: Dev Interrupted Presents: The Software Factory Roundtable Follow the show: Subscribe to our Substack Follow us o...

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All right, so I guess we got to chalk Microsoft up as another, yet another life beyond token maxing company. You know, they've seen the light, they tried it out, saw the budgets, and now they too have moved beyond the token maxing culture.

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What do you think, Andrew? I mean, Microsoft reversing course on the whole token maxing thing was only going to take about one budget, one bill cycle to actually come to a head, in my opinion. But yeah, you're right. I think we need like a tally board or something for like how many companies we've

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talked about adopting this phenomenon only to turn around and vehemently reject it or it'll cause some sort of turmoil. So this is your reminder, token maxing and that whole phenomenon is not the strategy to scale AI success on your team. And Microsoft joins the companies that have you know, awoken with that clarity. Yeah. And of course, you know, if you're out there at

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