How to Become a Five-Time CMO
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How to Become a Five-Time CMO

B2Upper-intermediateSeptember 18, 20265 min
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AI gives confident answers without the context to back them up. Kelly Hopping, four-time CMO and current CMO at 6sense, breaks down where AI's missing context creates risk for go-to-market teams. She explains how GTM intelligence platforms fill gaps that generic AI models miss, why context depth matters more than model size, and what marketers need to validate before trusting AI-driven insights across the customer journey. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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You've got the tech, you've got the tools, but moving the needle feels harder than ever.

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Welcome to the MarTech podcast, a member of the I hear everything podcast network. In this podcast, you'll hear the stories of world-class marketers that use technology to drive business results and achieve career success. Here's a host of the MarTech podcast, Benjamin Shapiro.

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I'm Benjamin Shapiro, and joining me today is Kelly Hopping, six-time CMO and the current chief marketing officer at Six Cents. This week, we're talking about how AI is confidently wrong and where AI's missing context impacts go-to-market organizations and what marketers need to do to fix the

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problem. Today's interview is brought to you by ShiftParadigm. Marketing today is buried in complexity. You've got the tech, you've got the tools, but moving the needle feels harder than ever.

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