Bonus episode: The ‘secret sauce’ of success - With Octopus Energy CEO, Greg Jackson

Today’s episode is from The Business – The Times’ flagship podcasts covering business, finance and the economy. Octopus Energy has gone from market entrant to market leader in just 10 years. Greg Jackson, chief executive and co-founder is at the forefront of this business success story. The secret sauce? It’s nothing to do with energy - it’s the Kraken software that links the company to its customers and suppliers. So how did he do it? Why does he think 'spaghetti stacks' of ancient software are what’s holding so many businesses back? And what plans does he have...