Audrey Hobert on ‘Sue Me’ Success, Gracie Abrams, Malcolm Todd & Her Next Album

Audrey Hobert has been one of the defining new pop stars of 2026, rising to fame — gradually — with her 2025 album “Who’s the Clown?” after co-writing some of her longtime friend Gracie Abrams’s biggest hits. She sat down with Joe and Jon to discuss the secrets to her songwriting success, navigating her career alongside Gracie Abrams and brother Malcom Todd, using screenwriting and comedy to inform her music and writing her next album. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here http...